Think You Know Obama?
October 5, 2008 by Guy
Photo by Steve Rhodes.
Barack Obama talks about change and a new direction for the country, the only issue is you have to be included in his vision the way he sees it. If you’re unlucky enough to be born alive but unwanted he has no interest in protecting you.
I have a difficult time with the abortion issue, I must admit. I believe it is morally wrong but I never look to force my morals on others. Many times I find myself walking a fine line on abortion issues and how I feel and where I stand. However, one thing that has always chilled me to the core is partial-birth abortion and a practice I wasn’t even aware of — “born alive abortion”. A practice, more or less, where labor is induced and babies are left to die.
This all started with me watching this obviously pro right to life video:
So I figured, these are just some pro-life activists who have found a couple of votes made by Barack Obama (good luck with that given the number of times he voted “present” as an Illinois State Senator) and twisted it a bit. But when I looked into it, turns out I was wrong, this video is completely accurate.
According to an investigation by Annenberg Political FactCheck he did vote against protecting these children three times.
Obama opposed the 2001 and 2002 “born alive” bills as backdoor attacks on a woman’s legal right to abortion, but he says he would have been “fully in support” of a similar federal bill that President Bush had signed in 2002, because it contained protections for Roe v. Wade.
We find that, as the NRLC said in a recent statement, Obama voted in committee against the 2003 state bill that was nearly identical to the federal act he says he would have supported. Both contained identical clauses saying that nothing in the bills could be construed to affect legal rights of an unborn fetus, according to an undisputed summary written immediately after the committee’s 2003 mark-up session.
So, my question is, do you folks know the real Barack Obama and what he stands for? I don’t think you do because this is legislation that on a federal level passed 98-0 in the US Senate and was supported by Hillary Clinton and Ted Kennedy. Obama voted against it not once but three times in Illinois and has the audacity to call those brave enough to point it out liars:
I suppose that FactCheck are liars now too Barack? I have a better idea, you are.
These are debunked and recycled attacks from Alan Keyes in the 2004 Senate race. The only thing Obama did wrong was get confused in an explanation of why he voted down one particular 2003 version of BAIPA after more than 7 different versions of the bill were introduced in the Illinois General Assembly. He, and the rest of the Dems on his HHS committee, voted down that 2003 version because of generally accepted concerns that it could negatively affect a woman’s right to choose in Illinois.
Obama campaign spokesman Tommy Vietor has said that Obama would have voted for the 2005 Illinois bill if he had been a state legislator when it was considered because it addressed the concerns present in the 2003 version, much as he says he would have supported the federal bill, which wouldn’t have impacted non-existent federal law.
These are tired and desperate attacks.
http://www.rhrealitycheck.org/blog/2008/09/25/nrlc-born-ali ve-obama-infant-protections-attacks
They have not been debunked at all, I gave you a link to the non-partisan Annenberg site that points out that they are true. Your link is from a clearly partisan pro-choice website (and is dead).
Apparently you didn’t even read my post, the 2003 version had specific language that mirrored the federal version, that specifically said it had no standing on a woman’s right to choose and he still voted against it even though he said he would support it during his presidential campaign.
Bring some facts and I’ll look at them, I haven’t seen any yet except statements from his campaign (now that’s a reliable source) and a partisan website.
Like a great deal of legislation aimed at limiting abortion, these bills do often fail to put in language that allow extreme procedures when the mother’s life is at stake.
Face it. Nobody, I mean nobody, “supports” partial birth abortion as a choice of convenience. You’d have to be a fool with a cold, dead heart to do so. But in cases where the mother’s life is at stake, it is sometimes the only option. In those cases, which “life” is worth more?
And you can’t tell me you really care about an abortion isssue. You know as well as I do that presidential elections are not about abortion, or guns, or any of the other hot button issues that politicians use to energize the base. Roe v Wade isn’t going anywhere, and neither is the second amendment.
McCain, however, is nothing but a spoiled brat who has had every advantage. I do not denounce his service, but I do denounce the man and his attempts to distract the electorate.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain
I’m stunned that Rolling Stone would write a hit piece on McCain. No, elections shouldn’t be about abortion but it’s the special interests groups that get catered to. Obama is more than happy to take their money and let them do their hit pieces that he doesn’t directly authorize.
For instance, Personal PAC, sent out a Dan Duffy hit piece claiming he supports criminalizing abortion, complete with photos of a woman behind rebar (guess they were too cheap to have a real photo shoot done in jail) saying Duffy would jail women. Tell me my liberal brother, where is the sense in that? It’s blatantly not true, it was mailed to every registered female voter in the district though.
Our processes have been polluted by the dirty money of special interests groups, at least McCain has a record of trying to fight that — Obama, right down to the house he lives in, is a PRODUCT of special interests.
So what do you think of ALL public financing of campaigns? I am all for it. Believe me, I am with you as far as how money poisons the whole system. You know that I have run for a couple different things. You know what either party wants to know before they consider putting you on the ticket for a State seat, for instance?
How many people do you know who will write you a $1000 check tomorrow.
Well, in my case it wasn’t that many.
Our “Democracy” has been for sale for a LONG time. What are we going to do about it?
http://just6dollars.org/splash/
And yes, McCain has done work in that regard, but that alone is not enough for me. Especially considering his VP. The last thing I want in the White House is an EXTREME religious wacko.